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by Russ Bales (Under construction.... Doing research.... Interviewing Mormons)
After posing questions to members of the LDS Church at the Internet discussion board at CARM.org (here and here) and after reading through multiple LDS responses, they gave the following most-pertinent responses to the question: “Do you believe you’ll become Gods over other planets?” Some of the persons quoted employ Internet "handles" or pseudonyms in place of their real names. Quotes are from the year 2008. “The answer is: God wants you Russ to be able to have what he has. A world, with spirit children that can be placed there. You have divine potential.” “As for me, I know my potential, and am following the example of the Saviour, I stumble often, but he guides me. As I continue to learn and grow, one day I expect to enter into his rest, and have assurance that I will receive an exaltation and become like My Father in heaven.” –getlloyd “I do believe that someday in the far distant future I'll become a God over some group of planets.” -Kevin Simonson “Yes only if I am worthy and it will be through the atonement of Jesus the Christ. I can become a Joint Heir with Jesus as it says in Romans.” –jkfrost “Yes, if worthy.” –ajholloway “Children inherit what the Father has. This is the way of Things. It has always been the way. Servants and slaves shall not inherit with the Sons of God.” –bert10 {ed. I assume bert has in mind that those who don’t become LDS Gods will become ministering servants in heaven.} "Sure I believe that celestial families will have spirit children and take part in the creation of new worlds, but there are still plenty of details that we just don't have." Polaris After asking at another LDS site: "The short answer is yes. What does this scripture tell you? Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." -Flyonthewall
"1. [Divinization] is restricted to faithful members of (what we believe to
be) God's sole authorized Church After informing one Mormon that I'd found several official LDS references to the doctrine of Eternal Progression, he answered:
Since
there were no LDS responses to the negative, I’ve come to the conclusion
that those LDS members who post their thoughts on the Internet believe they can
indeed become Gods over other planets. Of course many of those exalted will have plural wives." -Adamson2
What becomes of us after death?
Raised to a state of Happiness, Kings and Queens, Sealed by the Holy
word of God and His eternal Priesthood. Given the blessing of Creating
our own worlds, peopled with spirits that also have a Heavenly Father
and Mother. Many worlds and many Kings and Queens to rule over them.
(More to come. Awaiting responses and gathering info from LDS sources.)
Full page image here: http://www.mormondoctrine.net/images/gods_over_other_planets_full_page.jpg Scanned copy. Achieving a Celestial Marriage, Church Education System, Department of Seminaries and Institutes of Religion, Salt Lake City, Utah 1976, 1992, pg. 132
http://seminary.lds.org/manuals/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/doc-gosp-21-30-28.asp
copy D and c 132 here
C. Celestial marriage is essential to exaltation. 1. In order to obtain the highest degree in the celestial kingdom, a man and a woman must enter into the new and everlasting covenant of marriage (see D&C 131:2–3 ). 2. A marriage must be sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise before the husband and the wife can obtain exaltation (see D&C 132:19 ). 3. Those who are married by the power of God and achieve exaltation will have eternal increase (see D&C 132:19 ; 131:2–4 ). http://seminary.lds.org/manuals/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/doc-gosp-21-30-28.asp
■ “Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’ “You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power. That is why you and I cannot be satisfied with saying merely ‘I like that or want that.’ That is why in our childhood and our youth and our young adulthood we must stretch and grow and remember and prepare for the later life when limitations will terminate so that we can go on and on and on” (Spencer W. Kimball, “. . . the Matter of Marriage” [address delivered at University of Utah Institute of Religion, 22 Oct. 1976], 2). http://seminary.lds.org/manuals/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/doc-gosp-01-10-10.asp 8.13.11 Click to enlarge Section 76 "Vision" of the "three degrees of glory." http://www.mazeministry.com/frontpage/eternalprogression/3heavens/cowanthreeheavens.htm
"The Father
has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the
fulness of his kingdom. In other words we will have the privilege of
becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of
godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children
who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through
the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if
faithful, then they also will receive the fulness of exaltation and partake
of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on
forever. We will become gods and have jurisdiction over worlds, and these
worlds will be peopled by our own offspring. We will have an endless
eternity for this." Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2,
p.48
From a pro-LDS website: How will Eternal Increase occur? by W. John Walsh
From
the official website of the LDS church:
“Our mission
is to preach the doctrines of salvation in plainness and simplicity as they
are revealed and recorded in the scriptures.”
The crux of
any religion, whether it be Hindu, Buddhist, Islam, Christian, Scientology
or Mormonism, etc., is its means of salvation.
Joseph Smith
(1844, the year he was murdered) said, "God himself was once as we are now,
and is an exalted man ... We have imagined and supposed that God was God
from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that
you may see." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg.345). Below are some related Mormon Teachings from the Mormon personal study guide and teacher's manual called Gospel Principles. It can be found at the official Mormon web site www.lds.org or see the links below He is the Father of spirit children. He is a creator. We can become like our Heavenly Father (Mormon Gospel Principles Chapter 47) http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-59,00.html The Lord has said that if we are true and faithful, . . . We will become gods. (See D&C 132:19-20.) (Mormon Gospel Principles Chapter 38) http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-48,00.html The Prophet Joseph Smith taught: "When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top . . . This is the way our Heavenly Father became God. ... He was once a man like us . . ." (Mormon Gospel Principles Chapter 47) http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-59,00.html Because we are the spiritual children of our heavenly parents, we have inherited the potential to develop their divine qualities. (Mormon Gospel Principles Chapter 2) http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-5,00.html
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